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Award Redemption booking LAX to New york using award

Discussion in 'questions. answers. conversations.' started by Stephen, Sep 25, 2015.

  1. Stephen

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    Hi All.

    I have a stash of qantas points (one world) Trying to find flights in July next year from LAX to New york. Hard to find! AA has flights but poor times etc.

    What are my options?

    I also have krisflyer points and membership rewards i can use.

    Thanks

    Econ / Business are both fine.
     
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    JetBlue Mint class maybe? I believe MR transfers to JetBlue and I am not sure if KrisFlyer can be used given the new partnership between Singapore and JetBlue.
     
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  3. MidSouth Skier

    MidSouth Skier Well-Known Member

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    When using the AA website I see tons of low-level space for both economy and business class (aka domestic first class) for LAX-JFK.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "poor times". The flights either have to leave early in the day so they get to NYC before it's too late or they're redeyes. Because it's a ~5 hour flight and there's a 3 hour time difference between NY & LA, there's only so much they can do. That being said, I do see a non-stop that leaves LA at 1300 and arrives JFK 2152.
     
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  4. Stephen

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    Maybe I have a specific date in mind 8th July all I see is transfer from another city on AA i thought given so early there should b availability
     
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  5. MidSouth Skier

    MidSouth Skier Well-Known Member

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    Ah well, dates can make all the difference! July 8 is at the end of a short work week here as Monday, July 4 is our Independence Day holiday, thus LOTS of folks will take that week off so there's more competition than normal for award seats.

    Keep in mind that it also depends on what airport you fly into. There are no LAX-LGA non-stops as there's some rule about flights into LGA cannot come from further than x-miles away. You can only fly into JFK non-stop from LAX.
     
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  6. Stephen

    Stephen New Member

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    no wonder. I was thinking using the krisflyer to fly united. Is there no business class on united on transcontinental? On united site, theres only economy and first availability.
     
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  7. No Name

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    @Stephen

    A lot of flights inside the US only have Y and so called F seats installed, and available on miles.

    F on narrow bodies and older wide bodies is much the same as international Y+, still beats Euro J any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

    J inside the US is kind of new concept mostly on NYC-West coast routes, and AA and Delta have the lead here.

    Try and find what kind of plane is operating the flight you want and check here to find what type of seats it have.
    http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/information.php

    Unfortunately it does not look like Jetblue is selling flight after May 3 2016 yet. They may be a low cost carrier, but their transcon product is still on off the best out there, and often very competitively priced. And is now a partner with Krisflyer.

    http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/JetBlue_Airways/Jetblue_Airways_Airbus_A321_transcon.php
     
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  8. Stephen

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    Thanks! Just looking at Krisflyer 40k points for 2 one way seems a good deal. Which carriers have the so called "business class seats" from LAX to new york? Yes Jetblue seems good but as you said its not selling july yet.
     
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  9. MidSouth Skier

    MidSouth Skier Well-Known Member

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    As @No Name states, only Delta, AA and JetBlue offer flat beds on that route. Delta does not offer a first class cabin on any international flight. What they (and most US airlines) call domestic First Class just has bigger recliner seats, more legroom and meals are included. They're better than economy, for sure, but more akin to what business class should be.

    JetBlue offers a 2-class cabin but the Mint cabin (as their First Class is called) has the flat bed.

    AA offers some 3-cabin flights with both business and first. But I don't think all their flights are configured that way so you'd have to check to be sure.
     
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  10. dantheman

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    I don't think that's correct, United offers flat beds in biz on their p.s. flights LAX-EWR.
     
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  11. MidSouth Skier

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    @dantheman - That does ring a bell though I'm not sure how to distinguish between the two on the UA site. On 8 July they all show as 757-200s.
     
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  12. dantheman

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    Just compare seat map on united site when searching award to the seat maps on seatguru for the plane. Availability, like AA transcon, is uniformly horrible tho
     
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  13. MidSouth Skier

    MidSouth Skier Well-Known Member

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    Well, yeah, I know how to do that. What I mean is they all showed 757-200s and what a pain to have to enter each flight number on Seat Guru to figure out if it's p.s. service or not.
     
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  14. No Name

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    I assume this is the United PS service plane?
    https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/757/200/v3.aspx

    @MidSouth Skier

    Try opening the United website in 2 different browsers.
    In one do a search for paid one way direct Business/BusinessFirst LAX-EWR
    It should give you a list where the plane is 752 and the Fare Class is United BusinessFirst and that is the PS flights of the day. If the fare class says First, it's not a PS flight.

    Then compare with results from you award search in the other browser?
     
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    Depends on the flight. Don't forget many JFK-LAX/SFO flights are operated in a 3 cabin configuration.
     
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  16. Stephen

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    2 questions
    Does anyone know if searching for united availability for star alliance (i.e. using my krisflyer) which site should i use ? I looked up united and theres plenty of seats, but calling krisflyer said theres nothing... I figured it doesn't matter what seat i'm on now
    Also when does krisflyer allow redemptions for jetblue?
     
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    In the past I always used Aeroplan and ANA for checking Star Alliance availability
     
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  18. Stephen

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    ANA doesn't seem to show domestic US at all... any reason?
     
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  19. thelongroadau

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    AA has the best product, it's F hard product is streets ahead of the others, and it's J is roughly comparable to the competition. Both are flat beds, and last time I checked availability was good for one person. Two people you'd have to fly on a Saturday, or on separate flights. Some are as little as an hour apart.

    This is a good use of QF points, particularly in J class. You'd have to decide if the novelty of 1-1 seating on a narrowbody and slightly better seating is worth 50% more points.

    Others have commented on the flight times and time difference.

    If you're struggling to find availability, AA flies the same product SFO-JFK, you could take a short hop connecting flight LAX-SFO for the same number of points. QF's search engine might not find this by default, but the multi-city search tool will work, and as I said, charge the same number of points so long as you don't stopover in SFO.
     
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  20. Stephen

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    Thanks I did look at AA and ur right there is availability of u transit in other hubs for 75k QFF each person might b a bit steep I do have some AA points might wait for a deal to pop up as AA can change routing for free and for 25k one way is much more worth imo. Thanks lots . I'll prolly give up united using KrisFlyer it's like impossible to redeem !
     
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